{"id":5436,"date":"2011-09-06T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2011-09-06T04:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/blog\/?p=5436"},"modified":"2020-07-25T22:06:43","modified_gmt":"2020-07-26T02:06:43","slug":"transformers-collectors-club-gets-mad-about-knock-off-toys","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/blog\/2011\/09\/transformers-collectors-club-gets-mad-about-knock-off-toys\/","title":{"rendered":"Transformers Collectors' Club gets mad about knock off toys"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Last week, whoever runs the Transformers Collectors' Club Twitter account posted this:<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/tfcc1.jpg\" width=\"450\" height=\"185\" class=\"aligncenter\"><\/p>\n<p>It came out of nowhere and was apropos of nothing, so people began trying to figure out what they were talking about.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/tfcc2.jpg\" width=\"450\" height=\"470\" class=\"aligncenter\"><\/p>\n<p>Confusing IP infringement with theft is, <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/rac2750\/status\/108410299182354432\">as one commenter said<\/a>, \"a gross oversimplification\" - the Supreme Court found in 1985 that <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Dowling_v._United_States_%281985%29\" target=\"wiki\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the two aren't the same<\/a>. And while we'd like to give the TFCC the benefit of the doubt on this one, the fact that they kept referring to it as \"theft\" throughout the conversation makes that impossible.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/tfcc3.jpg\" width=\"450\" height=\"540\" class=\"aligncenter\"><\/p>\n<p>They then linked to <a href=\"http:\/\/lightergalaxy.com\/zippo-reputation\">an article<\/a> about Zippo lighters being counterfeited, which isn't quite the same situation: nobody seems to be making knockoffs of <b>current<\/b> TF product; it's all '80s molds and now-defunct lines, like Classics or Armada. Knockoff Zippos take sales away from the company, while knockoff TFs don't.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/tfcc4.jpg\" width=\"450\" height=\"275\" class=\"aligncenter\"><\/p>\n<p>Companies make no money off the secondary market, so that comparison is rather tenuous.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/tfcc5.jpg\" width=\"450\" height=\"275\" class=\"aligncenter\"><\/p>\n<p>Wait, so \"<a href=\"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/yo\/fp_tfx01cc.php\">not Ultra Magnus<\/a>\" is okay, but \"<a href=\"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/yo\/tfbwn_hein.php\">not Heinrad<\/a>\" isn't? How about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/yo\/fp_xf2aexp.php\">Explorer<\/a>, who's clearly based on an old toy, but is still 100% original work? That's where this really starts to leak, especially since they'd previously insisted there was no grey area.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/tfcc6.jpg\" width=\"450\" height=\"470\" class=\"aligncenter\"><\/p>\n<p>Oh really? Ahem:<\/p>\n<p><center><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"425\" height=\"348\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/gO6rqAJ3mGc?rel=0\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/center><\/p>\n<p>At this point someone questioned whether Twitter's 140-character limit was conducive to a complicated discussion of this sort.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/tfcc7.jpg\" width=\"450\" height=\"540\" class=\"aligncenter\"><\/p>\n<p>It's great the way they completely miss the point, yet <b>still<\/b> manage to play the martyr. And the thing is, ExVee was right: the Transformers Collectors' Club may be making a good point, but if they were, it got garbled by Twitter's short-form limitations.<\/p>\n<div class=\"SPOSTARBUST-Related-Posts\"><H5>&lt;i&gt;And now, some more OAFEry:&lt;\/i&gt;<\/H5><ul class=\"entry-meta\"><li class=\"SPOSTARBUST-Related-Post\"><a title=\"The glass is half full (of Energon)\" href=\"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/blog\/2025\/01\/the-glass-is-half-full-of-energon\/\" rel=\"bookmark\">The glass is half full (of Energon)<\/a><\/li>\n<li class=\"SPOSTARBUST-Related-Post\"><a title=\"Turkimus Prime\" href=\"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/blog\/2015\/11\/turkimus-prime\/\" rel=\"bookmark\">Turkimus Prime<\/a><\/li>\n<li class=\"SPOSTARBUST-Related-Post\"><a title=\"Transformers Animated: The Trial of Megatron\" href=\"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/blog\/2022\/01\/transformers-animated-the-trial-of-megatron\/\" rel=\"bookmark\">Transformers Animated: The Trial of Megatron<\/a><\/li>\n<li class=\"SPOSTARBUST-Related-Post\"><a title=\"Darth Trump\" href=\"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/blog\/2016\/03\/darth-trump\/\" rel=\"bookmark\">Darth Trump<\/a><\/li>\n<li class=\"SPOSTARBUST-Related-Post\"><a title=\"Flippin' through Previews - January '13\" href=\"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/blog\/2013\/01\/flippin-through-previews-january-13\/\" rel=\"bookmark\">Flippin' through Previews - January '13<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last week, whoever runs the Transformers Collectors' Club Twitter account posted this: It came out of nowhere and was apropos of nothing, so people began trying to figure out what they were talking about. &lt;i&gt;And now, some more OAFEry:&lt;\/i&gt;Captain Phasma &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/blog\/2011\/09\/transformers-collectors-club-gets-mad-about-knock-off-toys\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[143,247,8],"tags":[26,14],"class_list":["post-5436","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-botcon","category-fan-films","category-hasbro","tag-star-wars","tag-transformers"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5436","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5436"}],"version-history":[{"count":21,"href":"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5436\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":31825,"href":"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5436\/revisions\/31825"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5436"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5436"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.oafe.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5436"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}